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Speak Out: Potential Problems With New Potomac Nationals Stadium

Do you have a concern or complaint about the new stadium coming to Stonebridge at Potomac Town Center?

After county officials and local developers announced yesterday that the new Potomac Nationals stadium would be built at Stonebridge at Potomac Town Center, readers expressed concern that the 6,000 to 7,000 seat stadium and 1,000 space parking garage would decrease quality of life in the area by adding to the noise and traffic in the area. 

"If I had known this was in the works I would not have bought my condo in Potomac Club - I was tying [sic] to get away from the weekly noise of the fireworks which shook my home in Westridge and scared my animals," Joyce Pieritz . "Now I'll probably not be able to sell my condo because of stdium [sic] noise and traffic. Bad placement."

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Commenter Marie Terry wondered how the new stadium might affect (formally Potomac Hospital) operations.

"I also notice on a daily basis that the hospitals medivac flys [sic] directly over the path of the proposed stadium location. I wonder what impact this would have on the medivac's flight path. Lots of things to discuss and work out before they decide if this is the right place for the stadium. A great place would have been on the other side of 95 where they are building the new museum!" Terry  in the comments of the preview story for the July 17 press conference announcing the construction of the stadium.  

Do you agree with Pieritz or Terry? Do you have a different concern? Are you happy about the new stadium's construction? Leave a comment. We will pass on any questions, comments, and concerns to Woodbridge District Supervisor Frank Principi. 

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John Bonich July 18, 2012 at 09:47 PM
What about the estimated 25 million plus this "public-private partnership" will cost VA taxpayers since the state's gonna be on the hook for the parking garage / commuter lot? http://potomaclocal.com/2012/07/17/new-baseball-stadium-will-be-haven-for-commuters/
PWC Resident July 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Why speak out about Potential probems? Why not speak out about the positives? I commented on the original article so I won't rehash but I will say Stonebridge is a real plus to the area. The impact of the PNats will further enhance the development and ADD value to the area. Would you rather have more Rt 1 mix/match development with dollar stores that cater to the lower economic part of the county? Give people an opportunity to complain or find fault with something new and they will.
Rachel Leon (Editor) July 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Thanks for your comment, PWC Resident. The reason we asked if people have complaints is because now is a great time for the public to comment and request adjustments to any plans. We'd like to pass on these comments to Supervisor Principi. But by all means, those with positive comments are certainly welcome to share those as well.
Connie Moser July 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM
I guess it is human nature to look for the worst, expect disaster, deride new ideas, complain, grouse, fuss and fume. Then, you can never be disappointed! I feel certain VDOT and the developers are aware of the traffic problems and have plans to remedy those. I think the best idea I heard in years were the comments from previous post by Ted Fischer in support of light rail. I'm just grateful for anything that brings in tourist dollars or sales tax dollars instead of putting the onus on residential. At least this land use won't require us to build schools or support the infrastructure associated with that. Good analysis by Vinny. (I'm a Vinny fan! Always well thought out with facts, not conjecture. I really appreciate his comments.)
John Bonich July 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM
I just wanna say i love the idea of an updated stadium as long as the owner will let it be used for other events and concerts (not a Baseball fan), But I don't think its right to have the taxpayers foot the bill for anything other than road improvements when it comes to this thing - especially state taxpayers who will never even see the the stadium!
Donna July 19, 2012 at 02:23 AM
I think that instead of asking for the concerns, ask for the positives. Sad that the news looks for negative aspects to make it worthwhile. I would like to think of the good things that this stadium will provide and be happy. Life's is too short to think any differently. So Woodbridge Patch, think about wording positive questions the next time.
Bill Petrak July 19, 2012 at 10:01 AM
All, I left a comment on this same webpage earlier this week saying how bad of an idea this is...I won't repeat myself. Prince William County is having financial problems and we should not be spending $25 MILLION more to have a minor league team play baseball. There current stadium is fine. I have to admit that I have only been to one game, but the stadium was fairly empty that day. I live in Potmac Club (across the street). Last fall Frank Principi came to my community and had a politcal debate against the gentlemen who was running against him (Chris Royse). Principi stood there in our community club and told us how much of a bad idea this stadium would be. He went on to say how this stadium would only bring "hotdog selling jobs" to Woodbridge. Now he is telling everyone how great of an idea this stadium is. That alone should give you pause. If you didn't know, there is a $56 + million dollar project to widen Highway 1 in the works. Before the County Supervisors voted on it a few nights ago, they were briefed by county finance employees that in order to pay for this project, they would have to raise property taxes 4% a year for the next FIVE YEARS. They voted for it. I pay about $5K a year in real estate property taxes. If I have done the math right, my taxes will go up $2000 in the next 5 years or 40%. What we have to pay for this stadium would reduce our tax increase by 50%. Is this really what you all want for a minor league team. Continued on next comment
Bill Petrak July 19, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Continuation of previous comment.....If you didn't know, there is a $56 + million dollar project to widen Highway 1 in the works. Before the County Supervisors voted on it a few nights ago, they were briefed by county finance employees that in order to pay for this you want insight on the problems Prince William County is having financially, I suggest you read the Sheriff of Nottingham Blog at: http://sheriffofnottinghampwc.blogspot.com/ It will really open your eyes up to what is going on in our county. I would suggest you read the entire blog. It will take you about a good hour.
Connie Moser July 19, 2012 at 10:31 AM
In all fairness, Mr.Petrak, I think you should also share the link from Al's blog with the County Executive's rebuttal. I'm not taking sides regarding the financial wisdom of our senior staff, but people should form an opinion by listening (or reading) more than one viewpoint.: http://albornbiz.blogspot.com/2012/07/melissa-peacor-answers-mail-regarding.html While I know we all want to hang onto our money, I am always willing to invest in our county if I believe the benefit in the long run is viable. We have to find other revenue streams besides property taxes. Tourism is a revenue stream. If all the naysayers had not kept Disney from building here, we wouldn't be in this position today. The same concerns about traffic and congestion have reaped us the financial burden of a burgeoning school system and far more congestion than that park would have created. ...(and now the rural crescent is being built with residences, anyway- not preserved in pristine condition! read here for my thoughts on that: http://dalecity.patch.com/blog_posts/think-big )
Kev C. July 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM
They actually mentioned that during the press conference and it should also be in most articles that the stadium will be used for other events such as concerts and movie showing as long as the field remains in good shape.
Kev C. July 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Mr. Petrek, I understand your viewpoint but after reading more and more of your concerns, I'm starting to wonder if there will be a point in which you will ever be happy.\ You picked outside of your own community, my community, bringing unwanted attention to an issued you had with the community and the developers on things you were "promised' and never recieved. You blasted Mr. Prinicipi and stated why he is not good for Woodbrdige in our community Blog. You put a letter in front of everyone's door in the community expressing your concerns that they may be a conspiracy of keeping you out of the fair shot of becoming a board member for the HOA and community. There are countless instances in which I can point out but I will not continue. I actually listen to your concerns during your run at being a board member, I've also took into consideration on your post in our community blog aboput Woodbridge Supervisor. Although, there may be some things I can agree with you on, I'm starting to question those beliefs as it appears that your issue with development of a stadium is way deeper than that. Everything that takes place or develop around your neighborhood is now a bad idea because you may not like the fact that it's changing before your very eyes and those changes aren't necessarily bad. Sheriff of Nottingham? Really?
Bill Petrak July 19, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Kev C., First of all, if you know anything about me, you’ll know that I am NOT in the habit of personally attacking my neighbors and will certainly not do that to you.  I ended up in this area because the military brought me here 8 years ago.  I never thought I would stay, but the job situation was too good to pass up.  I also never thought I would be involved or would care about local politics.  What I have learned in very hard lessons over the past 5 years is that local politicians can really influence your day to day lives.  If you sit on the sidelines and watch, you will mostly likely suffer without recourse.  I would like to respectfully say that you are probably not aware of many of the issues in our community where we (our entire community) will financially suffer because of local politicians.  Representing our community, I spent a lot of one on one time with Mr. Principi seeking his help on many issues that faced our community.  He spent a great deal of time with me and others to try and help us along…so we thought. To make a long story short, he held a town hall meeting at our club house, made promises, never came back to fulfill them, and then took a campaign contribution from our developer two weeks after our town hall meeting. Our last developer and current developer have selected our past and current board members because they have 3 votes for every home not closed on. At our last election, I got more votes than all the other candidates combined.  
Bill Petrak July 19, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Unfortunately the developer had 384 (I think) votes of their own…and as you probably know, the developer placed the other candidates on the board.  I could spend all day writing about how our community has suffered because of the lack of integrity among several people.  I would like you to know that I am not the kind of person who thinks there is a conspiracy around ever corner.  I actually have a great life, a great family and I am a very happy person.  I would rather just pay my bills and only be involved in family and church life.  However, there are two kinds of people who I cannot stand…liars and cheaters.  I just cannot sit on the sidelines and get run over by people with person agendas.  Sheriff of Nottingham…really?…absolutely.  I hope you have read the blog before you made this comment.  I am not saying I agree with all on the website, but I am saying there are many facts about Prince William County I did not know until I read and fact checked this blog.  My intent is that this response is respectful of your opinions.  I would certainly be willing to say more in person over a cup of coffee or adult beverage with any neighbor.  You might actually like me.  :)
Bill Petrak July 19, 2012 at 01:49 PM
Hello Connie, Yes, I agree Al's blog is good. Share them all. After studying this issue and living across the street, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I just think this is bad fiscal behavior.
Kate Tanner July 19, 2012 at 02:28 PM
Bad idea. More traffic on Rte 1? No way. I love going to P-Nats games. The location where it is now is great. Can't the current stadium be rehab-ed? K. Tanner, Woodbridge
Kev C. July 19, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Mr. Petrek, First off I will like to apologize if you thought that I was personnaly attacking you. That wasn't really my intentions. It just appeared that every comment or direction you took sort of came off negative toward everything that has taken place in the community. Like I said in my previous posts, there were points and times that I may have agreed with you. Like you, I relocated up here because of the military (Navy, best branch in the world) and decided to take a job that I couldn't passed up after my tour. I've been living up here for 7 years because of that transition. So I'm privy to the information and econmical direction of our community and local county. I've been to the meetings at our clubhouse, I understand your angst at times but not everyone is out to get us and based on your past approach and messages, it came off that way. I've read your letter. I saw your viewpoint, and if so which at the time was very convincing, I beleived you. But it seem like you had an agenda. Not really saying you have one and I apologize again if it came out that way. With that being said, there are some problems and within our community but it's also a new development that has not yet completed and there will be some growing pains. Overall I see the steps and direction we're heading are the right ones. You are welcome to beg differ and we will agree to disagree. Continue below....
Kev C. July 19, 2012 at 02:37 PM
I wouldn't mind sitting down with you and have a cup of coffee or adult drink and talk about the issues. All I ask is for you to see it from my viewpoint and those that have witness it. Look Bill, I'm open minded. I can have a discussion with you and listen to you. I have no problem with that. This is actually healthy. It allows us to get everything out there and understand each other thoughts and motive. I do not think that I would have been able to hear your side or certain information from you if I didn't post my last comment to you. This is great. This is what we as a community needs. The ability to interact, communicate and create a stronger environment. \ Sent from my iPhone so I apologize for any mispelled words or confusing dialogue.
Kev C. July 19, 2012 at 02:39 PM
I really do not like this commenting system. Bill, My comments addresses you from the message starting below posted at 10:36 AM then continues at message posted at 10:37AM
Bill Petrak July 19, 2012 at 05:32 PM
Kev C, Fair enough. If you look on our community website you will find my contact information. I like to think I am a good listener. Look me up on the site and please send me a note on how to get a hold of you. Talk to you soon.
Joe Bowman July 19, 2012 at 06:03 PM
VDOT is also making sure a commuter lot goes in there. Currently a lot of us in that area of Route 1 drive all the way to Tacketts Mill in the morning, adding to congestion on Minneville. This is because Potomac Mills decrease the amount of spaces available. Even with the expansion at Horner, I still bet it will be full early. The new lot is a huge boon for residents of southern woodbridge who choose to carpool and slug. As many cars as I see pulling into Tacketts after 7am, I bet the decrease in traffic in Lakeridge will be noticeable as well.
Lee Jones July 19, 2012 at 10:59 PM
A great idea for the community!
Jimmy J. July 20, 2012 at 02:01 PM
The big concern is that Opitz will bottleneck even more than it currently does, especially during the evening rush hour. The PRTC commuter bus stop adds a bit to the bottleneck as folks are attempting to line up to make a right on Neabsco Mills road. So along with the studies, I'm sure this will be taken into consideration. I'm all for the idea if the bottlenecks can be prevented or eased by the traffic engineers.
Nova1 July 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I think it's a good location for a stadium. That piece of land will be developed, stadium or not. Would be rather have more townhomes build there?
Kev C. July 25, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Nova1 +1 Good point.
Sheila Beaty July 25, 2012 at 02:51 PM
For myself I'm sick of all the development. when my family move here it was for the piece and quiet, It was more like the country...Thats what people wanted.. I had my horse, spent alot of time out at the stables, I hate Potomac Mills Mall and the people it brought here. I hate living where people are crammed all together like cattle, I don't see why anyone would want to live like that, or why anyone one would be dumb enough to waste their money on glorified apartment in a building they will never own, they will always be at the mercy of others. Some may think this is progress. The county supervisors play GOD with our lives and money. They want every tree stripped from the ground replaced with concrete and asphalt, Yes I have become bitter, I have watched our county become a concrete jungle and it Sucks.
Kev C. July 25, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Soooo. Are you saying that those of us that bought a home in one of these new communities are Dumb? I can elaborate more on your comment but hey, what's the use. Way to be objective!
Scott M August 09, 2012 at 12:37 AM
I own a business on neabsco mills road and I am wondering if the rest of neabsco mills rd will be widened to route one prior to completion of a new stadium? It has been on the books to widen "forever".
John Bonich August 09, 2012 at 03:25 AM
I haven't seen this covered in any of the news sites yet. As of last night the cost to PWC taxpayers thus far is 5 million dollars, thanks to the Board's generosity with our- oh, sorry I mean the county's "carryover" funds.
East PWC Resident September 19, 2012 at 04:27 PM
I live about 4 miles from Stonebridge by Leesylvania Park and I think the new stadium location is a great idea and a wonderful addition to Stonebridge. With the new bars and restaurants going in it the stadium will absolutely help to complete the town center.
Clator Butler September 20, 2012 at 12:11 AM
I do support the growth of Woodbridge, but traffic planning has to be better than it has been in the past. With plans to build the new stadium at Stonebridge, what will be done to help ensure that we relieve, not worsen, this already-congested area during evening rush hour? For 4 years I commuted just between my home off Cardinal Road and the Rippon VRE station. This mere 6.5 miles would usually take around 10-15 minutes in the morning, but was typically more than 30 minutes in the afternoon. This is due to the immense amount of traffic on southbound US 1 from Dale Blvd to Triangle that the bridge expansion over Neabsco Creek did not improve. I maintain the stance I made to the Board of Supervisors before that project broke ground: The intersections with US 1 and Cardinal Road, Neabsco Mills Road, and Dale Blvd/Rippon Road should have been converted to cloverleaf intersections to keep traffic moving. The addition of a 10,000 seat stadium in this neighborhood, offering sporting events that will begin in the waning hours of rush hour(s), will increase evening rush traffic tremendously. It must be a REQUIREMENT to solve old and new traffic congestion problems in order to obtain a green light, or else the long-term benefits of this project will fail. PWBOCS, please do not take the traffic situation lightly. You will add to the misery of stressed-out commuters who will ultimately move elsewhere, thus crippling the more day-to-day stable economics of the area.

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