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Snap Poll: Democrat and Republican Officials Respond to Romney's VP Pick

On Saturday, Patch polled several prominent local Republicans and Democrats about their thoughts on Mitt Romney's selection of Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan for vice president.

A strong majority of Democrats think both Virginia Democrats and President Barack Obama can win their elections in November largely by running against Rep. Paul Ryan's budget plans and his proposals for Medicare, according to a weekend Northern Virginia Patch "snap poll."

On Saturday morning, Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, announced he had chosen Ryan as his running mate, , former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and others presumed to be on the short list. Romney made the announcement in Norfolk and spent the day on a .

After the announcement, Patch sent surveys to more than 75 key Republicans and Democrats, including elected officials, state and local party leaders, bloggers and politically influential people across Northern Virginia who agreed to anonymously give their opinions in a series of surveys between now and November. More than 10 Democrats responded, but only three Republicans responded to Patch's survey.

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local political activists, party leaders and elected officials in Northern Virginia.  

Would McDonnell have been a better choice?

More than 90 percent of Democrats who responded to the poll also said Gov. Bob McDonnell would not have been a better choice for Mitt Romney’s running mate. However, Republicans who responded to the survey agreed McDonnell also would have been a good pick for Romney.  

One Republican wrote in his survey response, "I think Gov. McDonnell also would have been a good pick. But Ryan is better known throughout the country, better vetted in dealing with the media, and will be better at defending his budget, which was going to be a hot topic in any case."

Senior Citizens in Play

A majority of surveyed Democrats also strongly agreed with the statement, "Mitt Romney's decision to choose Paul Ryan as his VP candidate will help the Obama-Biden campaign win the votes of senior citizens in Virginia."

Northern Virginia Democrats indicated the Ryan selection may push some on the fence seniors toward Obama. "Ryan's budget plan should terrify anyone dependent upon Medicare or Social Security," one Democrat who responded to the survey wrote.

A Republican who responded to the survey wrote, "His call for reduction of [Social Security] might not help with the age 50-plus voters who depend on it." But Ryan as a potential vice president "will help bring in more conservative voters that are concerned with Romney as a moderate." 

In the 2008 election, senior citizens favored John McCain over Obama by 53 percent to 45 percent nationwide. According to the 2010 census, 12.2 percent of Virginians are senior citizens (age 65 or older).

Republicans: Ryan Pick Energizes the Ticket

Republicans who responded to Patch’s survey said picking Ryan is a positive development.

One Republican who responded wrote that adding Ryan to the ticket was "a bold pick" and this makes Romney and Ryan "the true hope and change team."

Another Republican wrote, "[Ryan] is the leading budget hawk in Congress and understand the debt situation our country faces and has a plan to solve it."

Democrats: Romney Campaign Makes a Right Turn

In anonymous written responses to Patch's questions, several Democrat respondents noted Romney's choice of Ryan effectively pulls the ticket to the right, highlighting and clarifying the differences between the two candidates. Romney's pick may also pull in more tea party supporters, who many pollsters noted have only been lukewarm about the Romney ticket before this weekend, one respondent surmised.

This "makes the conservatives more likely to support Romney," one survey respondent said in his survey comments. Another respondent wrote, "Ryan is far right of far right."

Another Democrat wrote Ryan is "young, charismatic [and] substantive ... even if I don't agree with his substance."

However, one respondent noted the Ryan pick could actually hurt Romney with some voters: “Ryan's radical, survival of the fittest views on the economy, Medicare and Social Security will hurt Romney with moderate Republicans and independents.”

More coverage from Mitt Romney's announcement and visit to Virginia: 

About Red and Blue NoVa Surveys

Patch will be conducting Red NoVa and Blue NoVa surveys throughout 2012, asking both Republicans and Democrats about their thoughts and feelings on local, state and national elections and issues.

All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all of those (listed below) who received surveys responded to Saturday's questions. 

If you are interested in participating in future surveys, which should take just a few minutes to complete, please email Senior Regional Editor Beth Lawton at beth@patch.com or Local Editor William Callahan at william.callahan@patch.com.

The following individuals have agreed to take Red NoVa or Blue NoVa polls from Patch, though not all who have agreed to take polls responded to this survey taken Aug. 11–12, 2012. Participants are listed in no particular order: John Cook, Michael Kane, Mark Gibson, Chris Perkins, Bryce Thorpe, Garrett Jones, Scott Cooper, Ken Plum, Janet Howell, John Farrell, Mac Cannon, Cathy Hudgins, Richard Anderson, James Phelps, Mike May, Martin Nohe, Frank Principi, Scott Surovell, Jeff McKay, Jack Dobbyn, Mark Cannady, Tom Rust, Bettina Lawton, Bob Haley, Rachel Rifkind, George Burke, Mark Itzkoff, Frank Anderson, Susan Valentine, H. Lillian Vogl, Steve Hunt, Catherine Read, Mark Keam, John Jaggers, Dak Hardwick, Rob Krupicka, Charlie Jackson, John Whitbeck, Evan McBeth, Erin Smith, Gerarda Culipher, Tom Fulton, Penny Gross, Gerry Connolly, Jim Scott, Dick Saslaw, Suhas Naddoni, Frank Jones, Jeanette Rishell, Phil Duncan, Larry Roeder, Adam Washington, Lawrence Webb, Luke Torian, Patrick Forrest, George Schwartz, Frank Fannon, Jerry Carman, Patricia Richie-Folks, John Chapman, Allison Silberberg, Gail Gordon, Tim McGhee, Anne Little, David Speck, Dave Butler, Marty Martinez, Kelly Burk, Ken Reid, Ann Robinson, Bob Wood, John Lawrence, Chris Marston, Alane Callander, Bill Cinnamond, Tina Hone, Ken Feltman, Pat Hynes, Sharon Annear, Adam Cook.

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Don Joy August 23, 2012 at 02:58 pm
Cathryn, I don't believe there are any that aren't biased to some extent. RealClearPolitics.com, while not a "fact checking" site, is a fairly good mainstream clearinghouse because it presents input from all sides. But the so-called "fact checker" sites are dubious if only because they purport to be free of bias, which honest people should acknowledge is virtually impossible when it comes to human beings.
Mike Hirsch August 23, 2012 at 04:32 pm
For those wanting unbiased fact checking how about this - http://www.youtube.com/v/erYpXzE9Pxs%26
Watch it and laugh! If it wasn't true it wouldn't be so humorous! November cometh....
Mike Hirsch August 23, 2012 at 04:37 pm
Hey Locally Involved,
Does GOP stand for Great Opportunity Party or what? LOL! I for one am full of joy and happiness and well informed as I can see that Don is also, despite whatt you'd like to think or believe! The comparisons of the planks and overall platfroms of the RNC and DNC will be iteresting. Take a look at the past and you'll know what to expect in the future! That's why I'm voting for R&R, Allen, and the Eminent Domain Amendement in Virginia!
Mike August 24, 2012 at 03:30 am
http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says
Ellen August 24, 2012 at 03:48 am
Anyone who does not agree with Patch's liberal agenda gets beat up big time.
Carol Lewis August 24, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I think that's quite unfair. Patch poses questions, citizens on both sides answer them. Seems to me that the conservatives do quit a bit of beating up as well. It's a shame we can't present and discuss our views without name calling.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Patch editors are all democrats, as far as I can tell. That is the norm in 85% of the media. *sigh*
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 12:31 pm
...the same people, ironically, that are always croaking homilies about how "diversity" is so beneficial and necessary, etc. I will pay $50 to anyone who can find me a Patch editor who is a heterosexual male republican.
Anthony Fasolo August 24, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I really do enjoy reading the comments made by all. I only wish that we could all stick to the facts/issues and not call each other names or say things like the Patch is controlled by Democrats because we may not agree with the results of a poll that is put in there by the Patch(e.g. such as a poll where moslty Dems answered-and many Republicans did not--Patch clearly explained what was done and who decided to respond and who did not.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Valid points have been made further up the thread about how the poll was presented. The discussion of the editorial makeup and bias of Patch is directly relevant.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 12:50 pm
One Patch editor even changed her profile information to omit where she had previously included that she is a democrat, after I pointed it out to others on another article discussion thread a couple of months ago.
Karen Goff (Editor) August 24, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Don Joy - I can find you several "heterosexual male Republicans" working here as we have people of all types and Patch is not a politically biased organization. Do I get 50 bucks for each one? If so, thanks!
Karen Goff (Editor) August 24, 2012 at 01:00 pm
Don Joy - Please stick to the topic - was Ryan a good VP pick and the results of Patch's polls (in which we questioned both Democrats and Republicans). This is not the place to repeatedly make accusations about your perceived Patch editorial bias, which I can assure you is 100 percent wrong.
Carol Lewis August 24, 2012 at 01:10 pm
Don, it doesn't matter what the political persuasions of the editors are. They present a story or pose a question and we answer, and the answers reflect the views of the citizenry, not the editors. You seem to "live" on Patch solely for the sake of hurling epithets at those who don't agree with you. Karen's right, stick to the topic and do so without such vitriol.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 01:19 pm
Karen, show me one who is an editor and I will gladly hand over the $50.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 01:24 pm
Carol, I post mainly facts, with colorful commentary. I have a job that involves a lot of waiting. Seems to me like you are just irritated that someone successfully rebuts the prevailing leftist viewpoint on this forum. It's forum, I suggest you tolerate different viewpoints.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 01:41 pm
To support my rationale for the way I've particpated here, I'm re-posting Mike's remarks from further up:
'"More than 10 Democrats responded, but only three Republicans responded to Patch's survey." 'Even if it was "More than 10 Republicans responded, but only three Democrats responded to Patch's survey," I would not use these results in any sort of write up indicating poll results, especially using "Snap Poll" in the title. 'I find the whole thing misleading and a prematurely published story.'
Leslie Perales Loges August 24, 2012 at 02:12 pm
Don, I think you're right that most people who work in media are Democrats. As a journalist, I hear the media referred to as liberal every day—but in order for that to change more republicans (or independents for that matter) would need to become journalists. It doesn't seem to be a career that attracts many, and that could be because they believe it's not the place for them and it's a place for liberals. It almost seems (and I know I'm not explaining it all that well here) like a self fulfilling prophecy.
I also don't think it's possible to have a completely unbiased media, though I try my best to be unbiased. Earlier this week I posted a video on Herndon Patch's Facebook page from the Mitt Romney campaign because it features a prominent Herndon businessman. My thought process was, "Hey, it's Danny Vargas! He's featured in a presidential campaign. This is news to locals! I'm posting it." Then I got flak from Dems for posting the video. I didn't post it because of political motivations. I posted it simply because it's newsworthy that it featured someone local. Bottom line: as a journalist you really can't win. My job is to deliver information and that's what I try to do. (As a side note, I consider myself moderate.) Anyway—back to the discussion. Onward with the colorful commentary!
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 02:12 pm
I enjoy the discussion too, James. I also took a lot of media/journalism courses in college, as well as have briefly been a member of small-scale media organizations at various times earlier in my life. Still waiting to see if anyone can show me a Patch editor (you're not a Patch editor) who is a white male heterosexual republican. I pretty much agree with everything you said, but it doesn't negate what I have said. Patch does do a pretty good job of not being a blatantly leftist site, but that doesn't alter the fact that it is basically a democrat-run and detectably democrat-flavored operation.
James August 24, 2012 at 02:24 pm
I work at a company that is in the patch "family." While I work in IT, I took many media studies classes in college, so I am pretty adept at spotting bias and irresponsible reporting. Patch is locally focused and decentralized compared to other news organizations, but I do understand the additional stories on politics since we reside in a swing state and it is an election year.
Overall, I just don't see a bias coming from patch, as I would from other websites out there. I am a male who is a center-right leaning independent, who is voting for R&R in November (stating that for Don's info request). If patch was as biased as some of the claims here, I would not frequent it. But reality is I am on it a lot because I find the information meaningful and well presented.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 02:42 pm
James and Leslie, I appreciate your comments. My attitude regarding the orientation of Patch probably started when it became apparent that an editor was coming onto a thread and admonishing participants to "behave" really only when those on the right were pushing back against the leftist trend of the comments. Then, over time, I noticed that the editors of the various Patch editions/localities were overwhelmingly female liberal democrats, as indicated in their profiles. So I felt it appropriate to make certain observations.
As far as the extreme over-representation (stranglehold is a better characterization) maintained by democrats over the major media industry overall, it's more than just a self-fulfilling manifestation of attitudes, beliefs, and propensities involved in the pursuit of a journalism career; it is actually a deliberate and calculated result of those who do the recruiting, hiring, and promotion. I see that Jayson Blair seems to be enjoying an apparently brisk and successful career now as a "life coach" here in the D.C. area...I do wonder how many of his clients even know why he should be a household name among those reading this text.
Carol Lewis August 24, 2012 at 02:45 pm
Don, you don't know me and you've never successfully rebutted my opinions. You are the last person on patch that I would say is tolerant of other views. I don't find your commentary colorful; I find it insulting and nasty. And BTW, there are homosexual white republican males. Have a nice day.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 02:57 pm
Carol, you seem to have missed the point about the absurdity of "diversity" agendas, but have a nice day anyway.
Karen Goff (Editor) August 24, 2012 at 04:06 pm
Don Joy - I find reprehensible that you now only want to know Patch editor's political views but their sexuality as well. While I could give you the exact info you are looking for, I will not. Because I am busy WORKING as a Patch editor.
So...here is some homework for you, since you clearly have time to belabor this point. Go to http://patch.com. That will take you to the list of ALL 864 Patch sites nationwide. Click on the profile of the editor. take a look at their bios, where we are quite upfront with our political views, if any. You should be able to discern who is black or white, male or female on your own, can't you? As far as sexuality, perhaps you can ask them yourself? Go for it! Let me know how that works out for you. Then, when you are done getting the info you need, instead of paying me, you can send equal checks to the DNC and RNC. I am going to respectfully ask you again to stick to the topic.
Carol Lewis August 24, 2012 at 04:14 pm
Don, I didn't miss your point, I just don't agree with it. I happen to believe diversity is a good thing, but often difficult for some (not all!) white straight Christian males to understand, having rarely experiences discrimination.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 04:22 pm
Carol, you completely missed my point...not to mention that you have not a single clue what it's like to be a member of the demographic which is targeted specifically for deliberate and systematic discrimination in virtually all environments of society--especially here in the federal dystopia of Washington, D.C(while simultaneously the absurdly Orwellian official policy purports that discrimination of any kind is forbidden).
Carol Lewis August 24, 2012 at 04:41 pm
Don, you confuse disagreement with missing your point. I understand what you're saying and I don't think it is true. White males have had a good ole boy network in society and in the workplace for years. Again, I get your point and I've heard it all before and I don't agree.
Don Joy August 24, 2012 at 04:46 pm
Carol, the fact that you thought it relevant to bring up that there are homosexual white male republicans shows that you didn't even get what I was saying. You missed the point completely. You still don't get it.
Mike August 24, 2012 at 05:15 pm
Oh snap! ...Nice one Karen :)
Beth Lawton (Editor) August 24, 2012 at 05:22 pm
Hi all,
We've gotten a few requests to shut down this comment thread due to various unpleasantries. Thanks for the conversation! I'm sure part of this debate will pick up with our coverage of the Republican National Convention next week. Beth Lawton Senior Regional Editor, Virginia
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